Aa pilot forum - American - AA Hiring? - Originally Posted by morerightrudder OP was talking about pilots who have had management experience. At least that's how I read it. Ah... ok. Airline Management experience I take it. I would imagine most of us military dudes/dudets are just glad to be here. I honestly enjoy getting paid to sit

 
American pilots approve new contract worth $9.6 billion. The Allied Pilots Association (APA), which represents the roughly 15,000 pilots at American Airlines, has today announced that members have voted to ratify a tentative agreement that the union leadership and management agreed to on August 1, 2023.. 95% of eligible pilots …. All names for the devil

The airline is required under its pilot deal to have 85% of its regional flying in and out of hubs (defined as the legacy American Airlines hubs, plus airports where they operate 100 or more flights). Austin isn't a 100-plus flight city. American runs a peak of 78 flights (low 50s on Saturdays, 60s on Tuesday and Wednesday). They don't have the …There are 15,000 different possible schedules, but here you go. LAX 320 FO. Usually a combination of 4 days and 3 days, occasionally a 5 day, by choice. I like to start on Monday or Tuesday afternoon, done Thursday evening.Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > Spirit. Username. Remember Me? ... Advertising. Calendar. Today's Posts. Search. Notices ### It is against the APC Forum Rules to advocate any labor action which is not authorized by the RLA/NMB. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, …Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) is a fellowship of individuals who share their experience, strength, and hope with each other so that they may learn to live with addiction and help other...> Airline Pilot Forums > Major > American > AA Class Drops. Username. ... since AA has given up on NY flying and surrendered it all to JetBlue. Reply 11-01-2021, 05: ...FORT WORTH, Texas — American Airlines pilots, represented by the Allied Pilots Association (APA), ratified a new four-year agreement with the company today. The new contract will deliver more than $9 billion of compensation and quality-of-life benefits to American’s 15,000 pilots. “Today is a really great day for our pilots and …Aug 21, 2023 · American Airlines pilots have ratified a new contract Details of the new American Airlines pilot contract. As mentioned above, the new contract for American Airlines pilots is worth $9.6 billion in incremental value over four years. Here are some of the highlights: This includes an immediate $1.1 billion one-time payment and ratification bonus APC delivers up-to-date information on over 100 North American airlines, along with career preparation assistance, downloads, cutting edge pay comparison charts, and the most active U.S. airline pilot forum with over 44,500 registered users. The site was acquired in 2008 by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands and has continued to flourish as …Joined APC: May 2009. Position: 787. Posts: 460. I have had AA travel benefits for 7+ years now (AA for 5, and Envoy for 2). I think they are the best in the industry. Boarding priority is determined by pass classification D1, D2, then D2R …Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN. From what I’ve heard try 700 TPIC not 700 SIC for being competitive at AA. Obviously your total time is very low as well. Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t have your app submitted. Being “competitive” generates multiple offers in this current environment.American - AA Fleet - Just an update to what AA's fleet currently consists of as of March 2023. Airbus 319 - 133 320 - 48 321 - Transcon - 16 - two class - 202 - Neo - 70 Boeing 737 737-800 - 294 737-MAX - 42 Boeing 777 777-200 - 47 777-300ER - 20 Boeing 787 787-800 - 33 787-900 - 22 ... Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums ...Allied Pilots Association. Headquartered in Fort Worth, Texas, near Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport, the Allied Pilots Association (APA) serves as the certified collective bargaining agent for the 15,000 professional pilots who fly for American Airlines. APA was founded in 1963 and is the largest independent pilots’ union in the world.American - Profit sharing - If you want to be a pilot for AA do NOT expect profit sharing checks as large as other carriers. I can't believe the pilots complaining on AArena and The Line. If you were expecting huge profit sharing checks then you chose the wrong airline. Get over it or leave. APA is getting blamed for. The more advanced forum for those of you who want to dig deeper into technical issues as well as airline management and operations. A forum for both professionals and knowledgeable amateurs. Moderators: richierich, ua900, PanAm_DC10, hOMSaR: 34067 Topics 444624 Posts Re: Automatic fire extinguish… by letsoc Tue May 14, 2024 1:30 am Scandinavian Airlines, commonly known as SAS, is one of the largest airlines in Scandinavia. Recently, the airline has been hit with a pilot strike that has caused major disruption...FORT WORTH, Texas — American Airlines pilots, represented by the Allied Pilots Association (APA), ratified a new four-year agreement with the company today. The new contract will deliver more than $9 billion of compensation and quality-of-life benefits to American’s 15,000 pilots. “Today is a really great day for our pilots and …Today at 1:17 PM. Half Fast. Pilot's Lounge Forums in this category are not necessarily aviation specific. These forums are our "Virtual Pilot's Lounge" where you can come in, chat, have a cup of (virtual) coffee and a (virtual) donut and talk about just about anything you like. :)Oct 9, 2013 · Gets Weekends Off. Joined APC: Nov 2008. Position: Airbus 320 Right Seat. Posts: 1,440. American interviews and class dates. I did apply today, would like to know how the personality test is graded, kinda like Virgin's . You can tell if you passed it depending on if you get the 2nd email. Reply. 10-09-2013, 12:19 PM. WB Schedules/QOL. ( 1 2 3 ... Last Page) CaptTX on 02-14-2024. 02-28-2024 05:37 PM. by Sliceback. 54. 12,764.More Videos >>. Airline Pilot Central is your source for up-to-date airline pilot salary and pay, retirement, and hiring information for over 95 US and Canadian legacy, major, low cost, national, cargo, and pilot unions., Airline Pilots make a second career in the face of economic uncertainty within the airline industry.Here’s the verbiage for wholly-owned eagle flights: “Cockpit Jumpseat priority is by FDJ AE pilots (includes all 3 wholly owned) then AA pilots based on priority list (standby list) position, then OAL pilots.”. Quote: Originally Posted by mainlineAF. What i posted is straight from the APA jumpseat committee.11-26-2014, 05:39 PM. # 2. FlyingLow77. Meat Popcicle. Joined APC: Dec 2010. Position: CRJ9 - the padded one. Posts: 28. There have been a few threads on this, but it is difficult to find and glean much good information from them. I have had similar questions about the checkboxes on the certificates page.If you’re in the market for a new Honda Pilot, finding the best price is likely at the top of your priority list. With so many dealerships and online platforms to choose from, it c...Penn State Wrestling has a rich history and a dedicated fan base that spans across the globe. For fans looking to stay up-to-date with the latest news, engage in discussions, and c...UAL: - Also good seniority progression (despite having hired ~3000 since covid) - EWR is a key hub with more flying opportunities than PHL. - Insane amount of widebodies/orders (wide body flying high priority) - Less current debt. - Clearest vision for expansion going forward.All civilian. 1st generation pilot. Let's see what happens. I see AA as the leader in promoting. diversity and growth of all backgrounds. However it seems it's always the military folks, high time, and majority that get the call back. Minorities have a tougher time it seems. 02-22-2024, 03:30 PM. # 2610.Jun 25, 2018 · Posts: 186. Copy and paste from the summary page on the APA Reserve User's Guide. The pilot Reserve system of American Airlines is a bifurcated system consisting of one group of pilots awarded “Long Call” and another group of pilots awarded “Short Call” Reserve lines each month. Long Call Reserve (LCR) Joined APC: Mar 2016. Position: Pilot. Posts: 176. It doesn't matter if we're looking at hiring or upgrades, always take the number the training center puts out before the year starts and cut it in half. They're either dreaming big or just blowing smoke up our a55es every year. Reply. 02-01-2024, 02:21 PM. # 7.An American Airlines pilot seemed to struggle with air traffic control communication. He didn’t read back the callsign or runway assignments, which are absolute necessities. When he was called out on it, he claimed he did nothing wrong, and that he’s not looking to waste his time. But then he gets super aggressive with the remainder of …In Major Replies: 4850 | Views: 2111109. Airline Pilot Central is your source for up-to-date airline pilot salary and pay, retirement, and hiring information for over 95 US and Canadian legacy, major, low cost, national, cargo, and pilot unions., Airline Pilots make a second career in the face of economic uncertainty within the airline industry.That being said I did not use any app review service, from the impression I gathered AA is way less picky with their app. However I absolutely had several eyes on my app from some AA bros and other applicants to check for things like typos and incorrect information. I would definitely use interview prep though. Reply. 02-21-2022, 10:19 AM.Planning a road trip can be an exciting adventure, but it can also be a daunting task. With so many routes to choose from and numerous options for navigation, it’s easy to feel ove...Originally Posted by DjHubberts. For those that Delta is your primary target (or prefer DL over AA), back in August 2021, the DL skills assessment was the same as the AA pilot skills test. Difference is that anyone that applies to AA takes their assessment. DL, it's the first step of the interview process.The typical AA alkaline battery has a capacity of approximately 2,400 milliamp hours (mAh). However, temperature affects the capacity of all alkaline batteries. Warming the battery...© American Airlines Inc., All rights reserved.That being said I did not use any app review service, from the impression I gathered AA is way less picky with their app. However I absolutely had several eyes on my app from some AA bros and other applicants to check for things like typos and incorrect information. I would definitely use interview prep though. Reply. 02-21-2022, 10:19 AM.The more advanced forum for those of you who want to dig deeper into technical issues as well as airline management and operations. A forum for both …Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN. From what I’ve heard try 700 TPIC not 700 SIC for being competitive at AA. Obviously your total time is very low as well. Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t have your app submitted. Being “competitive” generates multiple offers in this current environment.Here’s the verbiage for wholly-owned eagle flights: “Cockpit Jumpseat priority is by FDJ AE pilots (includes all 3 wholly owned) then AA pilots based on priority list (standby list) position, then OAL pilots.”. Quote: Originally Posted by mainlineAF. What i posted is straight from the APA jumpseat committee.American Airlines Pilot Pay and Benefits. Airline Pilot Central is your source for up-to-date airline pilot pay, retirement, and pilot hiring information for over 100 US and Canadian legacy, major, low cost, national, cargo airlines.Jan 17, 2024 · no, nothing typical or predictable. Whatever they deem the needs of the airline to be. They even had classes start over the Holidays two years ago when they were on a mad dash to get pilots on board after COVID. Reply. 01-21-2024, 05:15 AM. # 2430. Chimpy. Position: 757/767. Posts: 537. Quote: Originally Posted by JJDriver. Just turned 42. If you’re interested in Widebody international flying I would suggest UAL/FedEx/UPS. If you want to be a 737/320 CA based in DFW, CLT, or MIA then AA is a great option. Reply. 06-16-2022, 12:29 PM.Major - Question for AA pilots? - Any rumors on callbacks, havn't heard of anything other then UA and DAL recalls. Any info would be great.American - Profit sharing - If you want to be a pilot for AA do NOT expect profit sharing checks as large as other carriers. I can't believe the pilots complaining on AArena and The Line. If you were expecting huge profit sharing checks then you chose the wrong airline. Get over it or leave. APA is getting blamed for.Isom also vowed better scheduling and “more certainty” on when pilots would fly. Pilots across the industry have complained about frequent schedule changes during airlines’ rocky path to rebuilding networks to meet high travel demand. Aviators have also been in short supply. Reply. May 3, 2023, 1:55 pm.flyinawa. Weekend workaholic. Joined APC: Jun 2008. Position: A320 CA. Posts: 669. Quote: Originally Posted by Setspeed. If you’re paying $199 to prepare for this skills test, you’re overdoing it. If I was on the outside looking in, $199 would be a very small price to pay.Join Our Mailing List. About Us. AA Pilots for ALPA. Address. PO Box 38509. Charlotte, NC 28278, US. [email protected] About Us. The Pilots' Choice.The new variant was named the AA-5A Cheetah and was introduced as a 1976 model in late 1975. In keeping with its namesake it was six knots (seven mph) faster than the Traveler with the same 150 hp (110 kW) Lycoming O-320-E2G powerplant. Because the Cheetah looked very much like the Traveler externally, Grumman's marketing …Addiction can be a challenging battle to overcome, but finding the right support system is crucial for success. For those seeking help with alcohol addiction, Alcoholics Anonymous ...Problem #2 AA mega control freak attitude with Open Time (the daily allowable amount). This derives from a pathalogical need to control and fear. Even though time after time after time pilots prove that more would rather fly than not fly and open time always gets covered. AA is so paranoid they end up carrying more pilots on the payroll.Feb 18, 2024 · I think the only way to get looked at right now is to go to a conference. Without it, chances seem pretty slim. AA has only a couple of interview dates in the next few months. Classes are filled through June (those offered a class at NGPA last week will have to wait until at least July for a class date). AA 2024 Class Drops. ### It is against the APC Forum Rules to advocate any labor action which is not authorized by the RLA/NMB. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action.All right, we can spice things up a bit. American is better than US Air, as are military pilots over civilian guys. Ramp should always be on #2, because that is how we always have done it. Boeing is better than Airbus, just like Ford is better than Chevy. The Coffee better be Starbucks, the beer, Goose Island IPA. Oh and Go Trump.Earn 50,000 bonus miles. Book low fares to destinations around the world and find the latest deals on airline tickets, hotels, car rentals and vacations at aa.com. As an AAdantage member you earn miles on every trip and everyday spend.Replies: 2988 | Views: 1063551. Airline Pilot Central is your source for up-to-date airline pilot salary and pay, retirement, and hiring information for over 95 US and Canadian legacy, major, low cost, national, cargo, and pilot unions., Airline Pilots make a second career in the face of economic uncertainty within the airline industry. Online posts, including anonymous posts and posts made here on APC, have been used in lawsuits against unions. Many major airlines are in negotiations at this time, and many are contentious. We have been contacted by major union legal teams regarding this issue. The rules here have not changed, but the enforcement will now result in a 30 day ... For individuals seeking support in their journey to recovery from alcohol addiction, Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) meetings have long been a valuable resource. Traditionally, these mee...Alcoholics Anonymous, also known as AA, is a 12-step recovery program for people who have been diagnosed with alcohol addiction or feel that they have a problem with drinking and w...Delta - AA Contract Passes - American pilots voted to approve their new TA by 72.7%. REUTERS: American-Airlines-Pilots-Approve-New-Contract My friends at American generally consider it a turd, matching our rates to the penny (no snap up for you!) at the expense of work rules.Depending on composition, AA batteries put out 1.1 to 3.6 volts of electricity during a discharge and contain between 590 and 2,100 amp hours. The major types of AA battery are lit...American - American Airlines Pilot Recruiting Events '23 - Looking to compile a list of AA Pilot Recruitment Events for 2023. So far I'm only aware of: -NGPA 2/9-2/12 -WIA 2/23-2/25 If you're aware of any conferences, meet the chiefs, or town halls that AA will be attending this year please post below.Pilot and Cadet Testimonials. Pilots and cadets come from every background and they all have their own stories. We asked a few of our pilots and cadets what they love about being a pilot, what inspired them to fly, and why they chose American Airlines. Select each pilot to see their story.Feb 18, 2024 · I think the only way to get looked at right now is to go to a conference. Without it, chances seem pretty slim. AA has only a couple of interview dates in the next few months. Classes are filled through June (those offered a class at NGPA last week will have to wait until at least July for a class date). Today at 1:17 PM. Half Fast. Pilot's Lounge Forums in this category are not necessarily aviation specific. These forums are our "Virtual Pilot's Lounge" where you can come in, chat, have a cup of (virtual) coffee and a (virtual) donut and talk about just about anything you like. :)American Airlines - Login. Welcome. AA ID. Password. Caps lock is on ! Forgot Password? Login incorrect.Please wait. App is Loading... © American Airlines Inc., All rights reserved.Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > Spirit > Spirit vs big 3. Username. Remember Me? Password. ... Looking at a 12yr captain at AA on the NB, $278/hr, compared to Spirit $312-318/hr. Thanks for all the responses so far everyone! Reply 01-07-2023, 06:58 PM ...Here’s your chance! Come talk to one of our Chief Pilots, ORD Base Pilots and the Pilot Selection team on January 27th or January 28th 2022. Having some 1-on-1 time to get your application and resume reviewed by a member of our team can accelerate the Interview and hiring process at American.About Us. AirlinePilotCentral.com (“APC”) launched in 2005 with the goal of providing comprehensive information for airline pilots. APC delivers up-to-date information on over 100 North American airlines, along with career preparation assistance, downloads, cutting edge pay comparison charts, and the most active U.S. airline pilot forum with …Jul 24, 2021 · Just remember to commit to your answer. Negative! You will be playing games such moving a point, counting dots, organizing symbols, orientating, mental math, multitasking things, aaand some math problems calculations for 16 minutes. Once you finish you will see “completed” there is no pass or no pass. Good luck! Gets Weekends Off. Joined APC: Nov 2008. Position: Airbus 320 Right Seat. Posts: 1,440. American interviews and class dates. I did apply today, would like to know how the personality test is graded, kinda like Virgin's . You can tell if you passed it depending on if you get the 2nd email. Reply. 10-09-2013, 12:19 PM.American - Seniority by Base - Hello, On the outside (for now) looking in. Curious about the junior captain by base and aircraft. All threads tend to run away and go negative quickly, but I'm trying to get a picture of bidding power, upgrade time and QOL beyond the "Class Drop" thread. Anyone at AA with time.AA Interview Process. We are pleased to announce that we will begin recruiting new pilots and will begin accepting pilot applications on Oct. 1, 2013 the first time in more than 10 years. Weve been doing a lot of work behind the scenes to prepare for our newest team members, and weve shared some information along the way about the …Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Regional. Username. Remember Me? ... Calendar. Today's Posts. Search. Notices ### It is against the APC Forum Rules to advocate any labor action which is not authorized by the RLA/NMB. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of …At my interview when they were handing out our CJOs the management pilot discussed the pilot skills test. They use the data from the PST to predict who will need more sim time. I believe they use the data to predict how much sim time you need versus using it as a discriminator and gateway to the interview as Delta does.Allied Pilots Association. Headquartered in Fort Worth, Texas, near Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport, the Allied Pilots Association (APA) serves as the certified collective …Log in to the official AA pilots portal to view and manage your monthly bidding options, preferences, and results. Stay updated with the latest bidding news and ...Major - Question for AA pilots? - Any rumors on callbacks, havn't heard of anything other then UA and DAL recalls. Any info would be great.The opinions of chief pilots who have speculated otherwise could be wrong. Perhaps they'd be right if we we're talking about having a 777 and 787 base in ORD, as the amount of long haul international out of ORD is way smaller. Frankly, I haven't seen a 777 AA flight in ORD since before Covid.All right, we can spice things up a bit. American is better than US Air, as are military pilots over civilian guys. Ramp should always be on #2, because that is how we always have done it. Boeing is better than Airbus, just like Ford is better than Chevy. The Coffee better be Starbucks, the beer, Goose Island IPA. Oh and Go Trump.Planning a road trip can be an exciting adventure, but it can also be a daunting task. With so many routes to choose from and numerous options for navigation, it’s easy to feel ove...All civilian. 1st generation pilot. Let's see what happens. I see AA as the leader in promoting. diversity and growth of all backgrounds. However it seems it's always the military folks, high time, and majority that get the call back. Minorities have a tougher time it seems. 02-22-2024, 03:30 PM. # 2610.Air Wisconsin. Regional Airline. Random DEC questions. by Wings Level. 05-01-2024 09:45 AM. 341. 18,994. CommuteAir. Regional Airline. Denver base closing. by …Joined APC: Mar 2016. Position: Pilot. Posts: 176. It doesn't matter if we're looking at hiring or upgrades, always take the number the training center puts out before the year starts and cut it in half. They're either dreaming big or just blowing smoke up our a55es every year. Reply. 02-01-2024, 02:21 PM. # 7.American - Profit sharing - If you want to be a pilot for AA do NOT expect profit sharing checks as large as other carriers. I can't believe the pilots complaining on AArena and The Line. If you were expecting huge profit sharing checks then you chose the wrong airline. Get over it or leave. APA is getting blamed for.

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Armypilotc12. Line Holder. Thread Starter. Joined APC: May 2016. Posts: 46. American Airlines Current Interview Process. I saw a post from 2010 and was just curious if things had changed. If any insight of recents hires is around, would be much appreciated. I also understand that there is some sort of medical exam as well.American Airlines pilots have ratified a new contract Details of the new American Airlines pilot contract. As mentioned above, the new contract for American Airlines pilots is worth $9.6 billion in incremental value over four years. Here are some of the highlights: This includes an immediate $1.1 billion one-time payment and ratification bonusAmerican - Profit sharing - If you want to be a pilot for AA do NOT expect profit sharing checks as large as other carriers. I can't believe the pilots complaining on AArena and The Line. If you were expecting huge profit sharing checks then you chose the wrong airline. Get over it or leave. APA is getting blamed for.Depending on composition, AA batteries put out 1.1 to 3.6 volts of electricity during a discharge and contain between 590 and 2,100 amp hours. The major types of AA battery are lit...Are you passionate about wrestling? Whether you’re a novice or an expert, the Penn State Wrestling Forum is a valuable resource that can enhance your knowledge and connect you with...Alcoholism is a health condition that affects millions of people around the world. If you or someone you know is living with alcohol addiction, it’s important to get help. One way ...I think the only way to get looked at right now is to go to a conference. Without it, chances seem pretty slim. AA has only a couple of interview dates in the next few months. Classes are filled through June (those offered a class at NGPA last week will have to wait until at least July for a class date).American - American Airlines Pilot Recruiting Events '23 - Originally Posted by FastNeatAvg I don’t believe so- I think it’s qualification based- and I don’t mean most qualified as in hours. At least from other forum posts it seems that way. Naturally I just compare myself to other people who areDec 5, 2023 · 17 Jan. 24 Jan (CJO 31 Oct). Hopefully those who have class dates but accept CJOs somewher else will actually drop their class with AA a head of time. My buddy in 29Nov class said their were 3 or 4 no shows and for some reason affected the slots for basse and planes that they could bid for. 12-06-2023, 04:55 AM. Please wait. App is Loading... © American Airlines Inc., All rights reserved. Members online. Admin. Total: 240 (members: 1, guests: 239) Most Ever Online Statistics. Members: 3 on 2 May 2024. Guests: 339 on 1 May 2024. Most visitors online was 339 , on 1 May 2024. Community dedicated to making your airline traveling cheaper, easier and more comfortable. Air travel discussions, Airline Program tips and tricks, flying...Apr 11, 2023 · Spirit vs AA. ### It is against the APC Forum Rules to advocate any labor action which is not authorized by the RLA/NMB. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. This as-told-to essay is based on a conversation with Dennis Tajer, a 58-year-old American Airlines pilot and spokesperson for the Allied Pilots Association, the union that represents American Airlines pilots, from Chicago. The following has been edited for length and clarity.Log in to the official AA pilots portal to view and manage your monthly bidding options, preferences, and results. Stay updated with the latest bidding news and ...Join Our Mailing List. About Us. AA Pilots for ALPA. Address. PO Box 38509. Charlotte, NC 28278, US. [email protected] About Us. The Pilots' Choice.The market for pilots was a buyer's market during the pandemic. Now, it's a seller's market. American Airlines pilots earn about $23,750 for 85 hours of flight time each month, and they have a maximum of about 30 hours of flight time in a seven-day period. With overtime at 1.5 times, they can earn up to $33,330 per month.Posts: 186. Copy and paste from the summary page on the APA Reserve User's Guide. The pilot Reserve system of American Airlines is a bifurcated system consisting of one group of pilots awarded “Long Call” and another group of pilots awarded “Short Call” Reserve lines each month. Long Call Reserve (LCR)Just remember to commit to your answer. Negative! You will be playing games such moving a point, counting dots, organizing symbols, orientating, mental math, multitasking things, aaand some math problems calculations for 16 minutes. Once you finish you will see “completed” there is no pass or no pass. Good luck!.

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